them we'd have to let them go, and they could attack us for holding them without cause. ( laughter ) >> yeah, well, you know, under that logic, we can do away with the entire criminal justice system as a whole. >> stephen: all right. ( laughter ) ( applause ) i wouldn't go that far, but go ahead. >> well in the heart land of what we do as a nation is support and defend the constitution. we're dedicated as a country that is dedicated to the rule of law, and the idea of holding somebody without ever having a trial, calling them a terrorist but never giving them an opportunity to demonstrate their innocence is simply anti-american. >> stephen: okay, but, we-- we went through all of this years ago when gitmo was set up. we had all these arguments, you know, 10, 12 years ago. these guys have been there for 12 years. they're almost ready to have their behind-bars mitzvah. we did all this, okay.